http://forum.sharereactor.com/viewtopic.php?t=152489&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=ice+age&start=20&sid=d0d30814d0bbfd3194ece3530fabb859 (this is a reply in a long discussion between a religious believer and the more or less anti-religious efishta) wow nice effort from efishta! It come down to how you accept the info you get, i for one was mainly reading efishtas posts because hes angle appealed to my anti-religious mind. In any case its an interesting phenomonen, fanatism and close minded stuff. Check this: The mormons describe your faith and belief as a seed that must grow. This seed/beleif needs both nutrition: praying and reading bible/book of mormon and focusing and trying to "feel it" when your in temple and church and resistance: if a tree gets it too comfortable and much water its roots doesnt go so deep and if theres a hurricane it will easily fall over; so let it dig deep for water. At the same time we have atheists and "hedninger" (only know norwegain word for it might be the same) that doesnt belive in any God at all, and are discouraging their children and friends to "fall for" a religions dogmatic and fanatic teachings. I guess it come down to whomever impresses me enough, a prophet with his visions/enlightenments from God or the scientists work for better Life on Earth. But I do know my good Kebab and Pizzas and BMWs come from earth and we work to gether to make it and its good and sure God and evolution whatever but FOR FUCKS SAKE DONT POLLUTE THE NATURE DOESNT SALAD NEED NON-TOXIC WATER TO GROW? Lets belive in Earth (yeah!) and be nice to each other (less criminals=more bang for your buck) and also make sure next generations gets some fun too. Comon sing with me now Halleluja and lets meet up at http://jooh.no/